Why Jesus?

[Abel Christian (Jaberwocky)]

Why sould I pick Jesus for my savior and someone else do a better job. naw thats no way possbile. but nothing is impossible to God. So? Why Jesus? Does he really look that good dangling for the cross for your "sins". who made this stupid war anyways.

[Goodomen]

Because God is lazy.

[Bee Weezer]

First and foremost Abel Christian, we don't pick Christ as to be our Saviour but it was God who picked Him up or should I say "chosen" Him to save the sinners. It was already foretold by Prophet Isaiah and confirmed by Apostle John that Christ was the center of God's plan in creating the world from the very beginning. If you wish me to quote the verses, just tell me so, I will. The Bible furhter says that only in the name of Christ that one can be saved. So, none is available but only the Christ. We have to remember that whatever and everything that Christ fulfilled during His term here on earth was not according to His own will but following only the will of the One who sent Him, the Father. Remember His prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane? He wanted the cup of His suffering to pass by but according to the Christ, not his will but the will of the Father. To confirm further, which am sure you are aware of this Protestant's favorite verse: That God so loveth the world that He sent His only begotten son that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have an everlasting life."

[SirReal Killer]

And you got this information where?

[Bee Weezer]

The sole basis of my faith BK, the Bible and only the Bible. I hope you don't have problem with that :)

[SirReal Killer]

You said all I needed to hear. Nope no problems. It's your life not mine. Unlike most Christians I'm not on some crusade to sway people's thoughts and emotions on a lie. :)

Lets pretend I did have a problem with it...

What would be your response? I'm curious.

[Bee Weezer]

None. Because that is your life not mine. Like others here, I just share what I believe in and if you are against it, go ahead but am no way to convince you. I call it sharing or exchaging or comparing notes of ideas, knowledge and wisdom and without getting personal, I always consider it "healthy". If it gets dirty, then I usually withdraw for it will get to nowhere. Have a nice day!

[SirReal Killer]

Word. I can't much argue with that. I know there is a few good apples in every bunch just as bad apples.

[Abel Christian (Jaberwocky)]

So in a nut shell your saying God sent his only son to be hurt abused here on earth to have glory becouse he could lift a fingure and do it himself. he had to work though his son. becouse well some how the world was made by him and we all have to work through him. but his powers arnt limited and sujested to just jesus. if I dont beleive in this I must have satan and burn in hell fire. but I remind you God isnt limited to even the powers of satan. So I can see it as Satan is just christs enemy not Gods so called enemy. this really is your fight and burden not really mine. I mean there are other ways to look at It. I'll just pick one right now.

[Abel Christian (Jaberwocky)]

How does this add up. were mearly but his seed and were born in the image of god. yet we've have all but fallen. we can love but god is love. thats God the fallen the un fallible one isnt? we for sure have fall becouse he mustve himself becouse were all born in his image and fallen from his glory oh his glory mustve fallen anyways and been mishape. We can have faith thats about it. but wont alture the facts that men have written if you do fallow them you got to add them up to really consider the facts of what your trying to understand here. I dont dissmiss it as myth. but once you gather the facts from fantasy in your head about this so called evil satan that doesnt exist anyways as this dark over lord. you wont really get past that. Youd really think that this Satan was all powerfull in some weird hope even if he existed to condem souls? or have some power over the truth just so the glory of christ can be filled? you really think that lowly about men. or even that highly of Satan? And remind you agian were just mearly but his seed. oh what can we do? oh petty us we must need mercy. when I grew up I put away childish things.

[Bee Weezer]

"But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed." (Isaiah 53:5, NIV). That instead us who will suffer the price of our transgressions, God sacrificed His only begotten Son on our behalf.

You might ask, then how could it be done that we would be saved from God's wrath on judgment day through Christ's death? God created a "new man" for himself.

"by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace.."(Eph 2:15, NASB).

What does this one new man composed of?

"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." (Eph 5:23, NIV)

Therefore Christ (1. the head) died for His body, the Church (2.the body). And through his death, the upcoming spiritual death shall never prevail against His Church (Matthew 16:18).

Forgive me but I don't know exactly what u mean by "His powers aren't limited and
subjected to just Jesus"? and God isn't limited to even the powers of satan?

However, I disagree with all due respect with your statement that satan is just
Christ's enemy not God's so-called enemy. God and Christ are one (not as one true God)
but in accord and so with Christ's followers. Therefore, they face the same enemy -
satan. He is not a so-called enemy, but an enemy for sure.

[SirReal Killer]

On an unrelated note I just got sent some night vision goggles in Mafia wars! YES

[Abel Christian (Jaberwocky)]

Im sorry but you just called my so called life useless in the sight of God and that I might or must have a new life. After being born in the image of God and being some new creation. like oh hell I fuked up some being born in your image. I was thinking oh so much about ealier things and well might as well get it off my head. the first 2 laws jesus said was love the god will all heart mind body soul blah you know. were does it mention jesus? then love the neigbor as they self. the other well there are plenty of other things. I mean heck are agurment isnt useless you can turn people to sight of God in this aguement others might see my point of veiw. regardless it does streighten ones prespective. And why sould anyone need to bruise for another to be healed even drink there blood that is agenst the law of god it ways it is forbidden do not eat the blood blah blah in old testiment. there are moral agrments to this all. but christians if you think about it are spiritial vampires of pure ways. slurp slurp drink blood yummy live forever. Oh eah. almost forgot to mention that this ticket to free ride in to heaven aka jesus forogt a small note its not a matter of what you said but more of what you done. so knowing this why pick jesus after knowing that too?