what is death?

[Rachel]

Through all of the medical advancements that have been made how do we decided when a person is actually dead? Machines are able to keep a persons body functions active for years but is this person alive? Religious people say that the person is alive until the spirit leaves the body but how can you tell when a persons soul or spirit leaves their body (assuming that this ideology is true)? And to extend this discussion is physician assisted suicide murder? Should a person be able to decide what treatments they want or be able to say when enough is enough? If i had enough treatments, enough suffering who would have the right to tell me that i couldnt give up, tell me that i had to suffer more. 

Thoughts??

[Rachel]

Great point but that is only because of machines. If you cant control your own body functions how are you alive? I believe that if you cannot survive off of a machine (provided that your state of consciousness is already gone) then you have no life left in you.

[Rachel]

i might actually listen to you if you could make a point without an insult. 

if i didnt have control of my own body functions and just depended on a machine what kind of life is that? Id rather not suffer. 

[Rachel]

well aint that a pisser. i just joined this today so it would be great for some of you could catch me up to speed.

[Rachel]

i definitely will. Im good at causing arguments and fights. :)

[Star]

I believe they did a study and found that the human soul weighs like 1.2 grams lol

[Rachel]

really? wait what? thats impossible

[Rachel]

Yeah I knew that...I'm a little slow sometimes haha

[isaah06]

Dont stress, most of this site is slow all the time....

[Star]

well i saw it on yahoo so its more than likely far from the truth lol

[PhonyMcRingRing]

It's sort of true. In 1907 Dr.Duncan MacDougall performed 6 experiments in which he put people that where dieing of natural causes on beds that where situated on scales. the data from 2 cases where inconclusive, the data from 2 cases where corrupt due to measurement error, and in the last two cases he observed a weight loss of about 21 grams at the moment of death. Based on this information, i find the conclusion suspect, but the experiment was conducted...

 

[thє вluє wαndєrєr]

indeed! i saw that on a documentary back in the mid 1990s.

[isaah06]

It doesn't matter what religous people think about your spirit cuz its just bullshit....

your dead when your heart stops and your other organs die shortly after.... then ya dead, nothing, zero, zilch, no spirits, no nothing, No after life, no ghosts, no reincarnation... Just a rotten smelly corpse...