The politics of the herb

[Danksmoke]

Can anybody explain to me the logic behind the fact that abortion is okay via freedom of choice, yet non-violent people are jailed for choosing to partake of the all-natural buds of a plant?

or....

Why we keep spending billions of tax dollars on the "war on drugs" even though it has done nothing but fail? The only success of this so-called "war" is that it has made violent criminals and war-lords wealthy and powerful...........

How about the fact that legalization would not only save the aforementioned billions in tax dollars, but it would also generate billions more in tax dollars?

It would greatly benefit our farmers, as well as the environment, as marijauna is an easily renewable natural resource, with a countless number of uses which includes being a source of fuel. Any number of products created from trees can be created from hemp.......................

The answer to "all of the above" is simple: Both the Republican and Democratic party have been corrupted by the almighty corporate dollar. Outlawing marijauna limits cheap competition across every major industry from oil to pharmacuticals.
It's sickening. Every 4-8 years Americans vote for "change" by electing the "other" party to power in the name of "change". But nothing will ever change for the better until we kick all the bastards out.

This is why I always vote for Libertarians and independents 1st, other third parties second, and if there is only a Republican and Democrat on the ballot, I refuse to vote.

To those of you that made it this far thanks for reading my little rant whether you agree or disagree.......................

[The_Almighty_Stan]

As far as I know, there have been no cases of lung cancer caused solely by marijuana.

[SirReal Killer]

LMAO. umm yeah....i think there are more cases recorded on a yearly basis of people who get lunger cancer and have never smoked anything than there are anyone who loses there life in any way, shape, or form due to marijuana use.

[Danksmoke]

Good point Stan

Also cigarettes are legal.........(as they should be), and they are the NUMBER ONE cause of lung cancer

It's all about CHOICE

How can anybody believe this is truly a free country when we lock people up for making decisions that affect nobody but themselves???

[Danksmoke]

They can. The legal drug ALCOHOL is one of the worst causes of violence and traffic related deaths. Marijauna is way less potent than alcohol and any other drug you can name.

[Danksmoke]

And FYI marijauna doesn't have to be smoked..........it can be eaten.
So how is a hash brownie going to cause lung cancer?

[Danksmoke]

People are already driving under the influence of illegal drugs...........legalizing won't "add" anything......they are out there already.........I have no problem with arresting people for driving under the influence of "mind-doping-abuse"

[Danksmoke]

Marijuana isn't even a natural resource. It is an alien plant the comes from the lower sub-tropics within the Americas. And any kind of farming is going to be destructive to the environment; you are talking about sacrificing entire ecosystems just so we can introduce an invasive species of plant that needs to be soaked in pesticides/herbicides.

Plant= Natural resource. It's not like it's a man-made thing. It grows naturally in the wild. And it is extremely versatile, and can be cultivated indoors or outdoors.

If it is the almighty dollar that keeps marijuana from legalization then the logic is circular; if corporations are solely interested in making money then they would have legalized it for the sake of additional revenue.

It was the paper and textile industry that lobbied to outlaw it in the first place because they were concerned that hemp would cut into their profits. They demonized marijauna to get hemp outlawed via ridiculous propaganda such as "minorities smoke marijauna and rape white women" not to mention the downright absurd "Reefer Madness".

And part of my point is that they SHOULD legalize it for the sake of additional revenue.

Seriously dude, are you telling me that you don't believe that politicians are for sale???? That's just ignorant.............

This is your opinion, not really logic or fact. But since you are an American, abortion is a right guaranteed by the Supreme Court's interpretation of the constitution regarding the right to privacy.

I used the abortion example to point out the hipocracy of our laws. I'm not trying to create an abortion debate, I just say that "choice" should apply in more cases than just pregnant women.

As far as privacy....why shouldn't people be able to choose to cultivate and smoke marijauna in the PRIVACY of their own home?

[Andy]

It would greatly benefit our farmers, as well as the environment, as marijauna is an easily renewable natural resource, with a countless number of uses which includes being a source of fuel.

Marijuana isn't even a natural resource. It is an alien plant the comes from the lower sub-tropics within the Americas. And any kind of farming is going to be destructive to the environment; you are talking about sacrificing entire ecosystems just so we can introduce an invasive species of plant that needs to be soaked in pesticides/herbicides.

Technically marijuana IS a natural resource ( look up the definition). Secondly no amount of land needs to be "sacrificed" Ive grown the stuff in a fish tank. HYDROPONICS. Also Marijuana doesn't "NEED" to be soaked in pesticides. It is a ridiculously resilient plant, Ive had in grow almost in spite of me. Basically also the amount of CO2 intake to O2 output is extremely high. Marijuana is a very versatile plant and shouldn't be extradited because of a few old men in a white building.

[Danksmoke]

Marijuana isn’t a cast iron plant. It is by no means a philodendron. I've had people like you come to my store thinking a 48in T12 that produces less then 500lm can grow marijuana.

Nobody called it cast iron.

By referring to it as versatile, I was pointing out the fact that there are numerous uses for it including:

Medicine, Clothing, Food, Fuel, Paper products, or just to chill out and relax, to name only a few......................

And no land needs to be given up to cultivate it. Our federal government is wasting billions of dollars paying out subsidies to land owners to NOT grow crops on their property, so there are thousands of acres of land nationwide being sitting idle as we speak. And this is another example of WASTED TAX DOLLARS.

[SirReal Killer]

Actually the War on Drugs has made Columbia more stable.

how is that pertinent to us as Americans who would like the freedom to smoke pot legally? Next, the war on drugs is the exact equivalent to the war on terror. It is a fictitious entity that is simply never ending all put in place for monetary gain... this is equal to a load of shit IMO.

Marijuana isn't even a natural resource. It is an alien plant the comes from the lower sub-tropics within the Americas. And any kind of farming is going to be destructive to the environment; you are talking about sacrificing entire ecosystems just so we can introduce an invasive species of plant that needs to be soaked in pesticides/herbicides.

Again, not only was that about the silliest post i've ever seen you make; i will go onto state that for mentioned statement is irrelevant. I'd like you lobby that idea to thousands of patients who sustain life due to such state laws as prob 215. as an ex patient myself (im no longer a CA resident), not once did i ever soak my strains that i grew in pesticides/herbicides and can guarantee you that anything that originated from me was 100% organic.

If it is the almighty dollar that keeps marijuana from legalization then the logic is circular; if corporations are solely interested in making money then they would have legalized it for the sake of additional revenue.

well, this true. i will also go onto state that everything is put in place (on a state and federal level) for a good reason. With the amount of marijuana busts coming in, this helps to keep our prisons full and the almighty dollar rolling in. This isn't even touching base on such drugs as opium which is highly illegal just the same just about everywhere; yet our own US Army Rangers in Afghanistan guard large shipments seized on a daily basis. I wonder where that goes? ;)

[Danksmoke]

About as silly as the poster who claims something is such and never bothers to explain why. Marijuana is not a natural resource. It is not renewable. It is not natural in the USA. If you knew anything about growing the plant you’d know it needs sustainable humidity and photoperiods that do not exist in the USA.

"Not renewable" Are you kidding me??????? It is EASILY and HIGHLY renewable. The buds produce seeds and they are planted: thus RENEWING the NATURAL RESOURCE.

Oil is not renewable. Coal: not renewable. Hemp: renewable within a single growing season. And yes, the USA CAN support such crops. All you need to do is look out the window and see the police choppers searching for crops to know that.....and this is without getting into indoor gardens.

And my point about warlords and violent criminals becoming wealthy and powerful is based on the fact that they couldn't make money off of it if the prohibition laws didn't create a black market for them to make artificially inflated profits. My point is that I would much rather see control of that market legally placed into the hands of our farmers.
Look at the prohibition of alcohol in the 1920's: people didn't stop drinking, because the prohibition laws don't decrease demand. So the mob, ran by violent criminals, supplied the demand and became wealthy and powerful.

So how do we exactly make money by filling the prisons? Perhaps I missed the point but each and every prisoner has to be taken care of by the US taxpayer.

I agree with you on this one 9.0. It's just more tax dollars being wasted to jail non-violent "offenders" for their use of a plant.

Actually the War on Drugs has made Columbia more stable.

Whether or not this is true, Columbia is still controlled by violent drug-lords that were able to grow rich and powerful off of the black market created by the "war" on drugs.

[Danksmoke]

Come on now. How do you think plants replenish themselves in the wild???? The buds containing the seeds eventually hit the ground, and new plants grow in the natural process.

And the point is that man can take these seeds also and plant and cultivate them again and again and again and so on............

Thus HIGHLY AND EASILY RENEWABLE. Unlike fossil fuels.