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Let me start by saying people say god is love. Well I have actualized to myself love has no cause. If love is god, and love has no cause. What is the cause of god? The belief of god has a cause. It';s the ego seeking security which will deny physical security which is food, clothes, and shelter for faith. You will watch kids starve and go to church. You won't see the endless suffering of people throughout the world, because your belief, and faith, and hope denies this physical security which is very much needed to put away belief. Now look outside your window and watch your tv, news. You will see the effect of hate, violence, killing, war and all the ugly things in life. That comes from division, that division comes from thought. That thought is egoic, that ego believes, that belief is illusion, that illusion destroys my real life. What does it mean when I misbehave constantly, and act violently, yet I say I love god and I believe I will someday not be violent. You believe you will not be violent? haha... That idea, of non violence, and love becomes an ideal. Ideal is abstemiously illusory. The idea of making a house can be done very effectively. But the ideal of me through belief, through faith, and through knowledge of Jesus will someday come up on this thing I call love and god. Now how ridiculous does this sound? The sound of it get's translated immediately from your belief. So what I just said means nothing soon as your belief comes in. Because you are saying the hell with facts as long as I have belief. If I say yes it's wrong, if I say no it's wrong. Do you even know what you are asking? The real answer to this is actually infinite. The factual answer to your question does not exist. If I can most humbly point out that's a wrong question. Your question in itself is wrong therefor invalid. What you should have asked is what does belief mean? You answer me that, and then your question will vanish naturally. If you can truly answer my question, which is... What does it mean to have belief? Why do I have belief? Or what does belief mean in itself? Is it fear? Is it security? Don't ask do you believe in something. If you don't know what belief means. Once you penetrate my question with total insight, not with belief, thought, or hope, or faith. Answer that first and then I question whether you will ever again ask do you believe in god? So I will hold on to my faith as you hold on to yours, and now let's go to war because our belief, thought, faith, hope and all the illusory egoistic attempts to seek psychological security gets divided by thought. This division is the main factor which denys physical security! So If I say I believe in god, and I love god with all 'my" faith then I'm at war with the rest of the world. That is a fact, I don't say I believe in that. Belief implies division, division implies conflict, conflict implies degeneration, degeneration causes violence, callousness, hate, brutality and all the ugly things that crawl behind them. So I will kill you for the love of my god? Right? As I have been throughout time. Just think about the absurdity of having belief! So let's put away perception, insight, observing, questioning, doubting, humility. For my belief. So anybody that has a different belief is instantly divided. This is an irrevocable fact there is no belief there. So you can never believe in a fact. Because it is a fact and not a belief. I don't say I believe in the sunrise I would say it is a fact.

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Yes I do strongly believe in God. Basically each fact implies believing. Even an insect can have complex and complicated system which is a fact and the fact that no one can create it except Supreme Being leads us to believe that there is God who created it.
I believe that God torments or lets us be tormented.
No
Nope
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How do you really feel?
99% agree with your answer
yes
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If these are simply your personal thoughts, then fair enough. However as Bless Quarshie pointed out, the way your thoughts are presented makes it seem like you are trying to present them as fact. Half of the sentences in that paragraph could be argued and easily disproved. If that was the purpose of it, then I wouldn't mind breaking it down, but somehow feel that you don't really want to.

I do believe in God. The purpose of this thread is however unclear. Are you simply curious if people do or not, or do you want them to explain it?

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